EXCLUSIVE: ‘You can’t overlook anything!’ Ex-LAPD detective who worked on OJ Simpson case describes forensic clues Idaho investigators must zero in on – including blood spray, saliva and fibers – to finally nail the killer who murdered four students
- Ex-cop Mark Fuhrman, who was a detective in the infamous OJ Simpson case, lives in Idaho and is helping out in the investigation into quadruple murders
- Fuhrman, 70, described to DailyMail.com forensic clues investigators will be picking out, including blood spray, saliva and fibers
- He zeroed in on two disturbing leads, including a Mini Australian Shepherd that was filleted and skinned nearby weeks before the murders
- Fuhrman also revealed police have spoken to students who claim victim Kaylee Goncalves complained of a ‘stalker’ in the weeks before her killing
- He says he hopes that among the evidence forensic scientists are sifting through, some of the suspect’s DNA will be found
- University of Idaho students Goncalves, 21, Madison Mogen, 21, Xana Kernodle, 20, and Ethan Chapin, 20, were stabbed to death on November 13
Ex-LAPD cop Mark Fuhrman, who was a detective in the infamous OJ Simpson case, lives in Idaho and is helping in the murders of four students
The ex-LAPD detective, who worked on the murder investigation of Nicole Simpson in 1994, now lives in Idaho and is lending a hand in the gruesome quadruple stabbing case.
In an interview with DailyMail.com, Fuhrman, 70, described the forensic clues investigators will be picking out from the blood-stained crime scene including blood spray, saliva and fibers – and zeroed in on two terrifying leads.
The veteran cop revealed police have now spoken to students who claim one of the victims, Kaylee Goncalves, complained of a ‘stalker’ in the weeks before her killing.
And he said detectives will also be urgently chasing up the disturbing killings of animals nearby, including a pet dog three miles from the crime scene that was skinned and ‘filleted’ by a human assailant.
University of Idaho students Kaylee Goncalves, 21, Madison Mogen, 21, Xana Kernodle, 20, and Ethan Chapin, 20, were stabbed to death on November 13
Fuhrman, 70, described to DailyMail.com forensic clues investigators will be picking out, including blood spray, saliva and fibers. He’s seen at OJ Simpson’s trial
Moscow residents Pam and Jim Colbert told DailyMail.com on Sunday that they found their adorable mini Australian Shepherd, Buddy, had been butchered on October 21, just three weeks before the murders.
Jim also found a mutilated rabbit with its scalp and ears sheared off close to his home shortly before Buddy’s death.
‘Is this the act of somebody disturbed? Of course it is,’ Fuhrman said. ‘[Law enforcement] are looking at this. Hopefully they come up with somebody that they can at least talk to, that gives him some idea that we’re on the right track.’
Fuhrman said that one way a suspect could be identified is from any DNA they left at the crime scene, including skin under the fingernails of their victims.
Xana Kernodle’s wounds suggest she may have tried to fight back during the attack, according to her father Jeffrey.
‘The forensics involved with this scene is extensive,’ Fuhrman said. ‘You have four students. They just were at a bar, at a party or in close contact with people. You can pick up fibers, you can pick up contact DNA.
‘Two of the victims supposedly fought back. That’s not confirmed by law enforcement, but there were defensive wounds. So it’s obvious that at a certain point with at least two victims, the suspect had to control and stab, so he had to use one hand to control.
‘A defensive wound or evidence of somebody putting up a fight would be broken nails, scratches, skin under the fingernails,’ he added. ‘We don’t know if any of that was exhibited in the autopsies in the investigation.’
Buddy, a 12-year-old mini Australian shepherd dog, was filleted and skinned close to where four students were brutally murdered only weeks beforehand
Jim and Pam Colbert hold the collar of their dog Buddy who was found skinned near their home a month ago in Moscow, Idaho. They’re pictured with Buddy’s collar, which he was wearing when he was slaughtered
The incident with Buddy happened only a few miles from where four University of Idaho students were slain in their beds while they slept
Fuhrman described how recreating the attack could help pinpoint clues, but also explained why the attacker was able to kill all four and no one reported hearing screams.
‘You try to recreate in your head what the victims were probably going through at that point,’ he said.
‘If you sleep well at all – and all of these kids no doubt slept like logs – you’re woken up by somebody stabbing you. I’m not sure you completely wake up until the second or third stab.
‘I kind of wonder if most of it’s not already over at that point.’
‘Only the detectives on the case know how this actually looked when they got to the scene,’ Fuhrman said.
‘But you have to visualize that it’s wintertime; the kids have blankets or a comforter over the top of them. So when it begins the suspect’s probably stabbing through a blanket.
‘The homicides took place in the bed. I can tell you that the bed and the covers will soak up a significant amount of blood.
‘The floor is all simulated hardwood plank flooring, so nothing is soaking up the blood and if the blood is on the floor you’d have to walk in it at some point… Nobody’s describing that.
Fuhrman hopes that among the evidence forensic scientists are sifting through, some of the perpetrator’s DNA will be found.
Police sources told DailyMail.com that the scene inside the home is ‘the worst they’ve ever seen’ with the victims left to bleed out following the brutal early morning attack
The Moscow Police Department have found themselves under increasing pressure to produce answers into the brutal slayings of four students as they slept – including why 911 was only called nine hours later
‘There’s a lot of places for potential evidence and you can’t overlook anything. It’s not like we have ballistics or shell casings. You have an attack with a knife and four different people that bled out,’ he said. ‘So it’s significant and overwhelming the amount of forensics that you have to collect.
‘They’re looking for overlapped, mixed DNA from blood of one set of samples that don’t match the four victims.
‘The suspect’s attacking people, he’s leaning into them and stabbing them while they’re fighting back.
Fuhrman revealed police have spoken to students who claim victim Kaylee Goncalves (pictured) complained of a ‘stalker’ in the weeks before her killing
‘If Xana is throwing punches, let’s hope she actually tagged him in the nose and he has a bloody nose.
‘Let’s just hope that, if nothing else, he is completely excited, frothed up, amped up with adrenaline. He could have saliva coming out of his mouth because he’s maybe exclaiming something. That’s what they’re looking for.’
Fuhrman previously revealed that he had spoken to a student who heard rumors that Kaylee had a stalker.
He told DailyMail.com the students had been referred to police, but the worrying lead may be hard to chase.
‘I’ve just been told that by a couple of students, but that information is twice removed from the victims. And I have a little caution to what 18-to-21-year-old kids call stalkers,’ he said.
‘A pretty girl asked out too many times is one thing. Somebody that they don’t know who’s not a student, showing up to places they have no business being, is another.
‘Somebody said that on Monday of last week, that [Kaylee] had voiced concerns about a so-called stalker to a friend. That friend related that to another person, who came to me.
‘If the kids are talking about it, it probably has some validity, because they’re not talking about the same thing with the other victims.
‘That person didn’t want to be contacted but I’m sure that by now police have talked to them. I advised that everybody needs to make themselves available and call in exactly what they told me.
James Fry, chief of Moscow police, confirmed that they still had not identified a suspect in the killing and admitted that they could not rule out a threat to the community
The Moscow Police Department have found themselves under increasing pressure to produce answers into the brutal slayings of four students as they slept – including why 911 was only called nine hours later.
Officials who raced to the six-bedroom property initially claimed that there was no wider threat to the public – a statement they retracted three days after the incident and have failed to make a single arrest.
Kaylee’s parents say police told them the crime scene ‘will take a lot of time to process’ and the killer was ‘sloppy’.
Cops were quick to claim the scene of the ‘complex and terrible crime’ was the ‘most horrific’ they had ever seen, despite strangely first saying they believed one of the victims had ‘passed out’.
As the investigation moves into its second week, questions continue to mount about the unsolved quadruple murders, which appears to have cops stumped as they scramble for more information.
Last week, Latah County Prosecutor Bill Thompson said the Thanksgiving break had hampered the investigation because many potential witnesses are students who have already left the small college town.
Moscow Police Department Chief James Fry said that more than 640 tips had been received and investigated in a statement on Sunday.
Now, police are asking residents and local businesses to scour surveillance footage taken between 3am and 6am the night the four friends were murdered. It is unclear why it has taken so long to narrow down the areas of interest.