Former sniper Tim Kennedy tells Joe Rogan that ‘defund the police’ is to blame for Uvalde massacre


Former Green Beret sniper Tim Kennedy tells Joe Rogan that ‘defund the police’ is partly to blame for Uvalde school massacre because anti-cop doctrine has demoralized officers and hindered combat training

  • Tim Kennedy, a former Green Beret and MMA fighter, appeared on Joe Rogan’s show to promote his book ‘Scars and Stripes’
  • At one point, the conversation turned to the Uvalde massacre when Kennedy said that officers are no longer properly trained due to a lack of funding
  • He said there will be more massacres ‘Unless we get them the right training and we get our schools to become hard targets’
  • Kennedy also blamed ‘society’ for emasculating police officers 
  • He added: ‘We still need men and women that will run towards the sound of gunfire and know what to do’
  • The city of Uvalde, with a population of 16,000, spends 40% of its yearly budget on its police force to the tune of around $4 million

Former Green Beret sniper and MMA fighter Tim Kennedy believes that the ‘defund the police’ movement carries some of the blame for the Robb Elementary School shooting.

Kennedy, 42, shared his insight on the shooting deaths of 19 children and two teachers in Uvalde in May during an appearance on ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ on June 16. 

Kennedy cited ‘defund the police,’ a movement born out of nationwide protests following the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, as playing a role in the Uvalde shooting because officers are being trained ‘with broken systems’ and as a result ‘are not ready to do the right thing.’

The former MMA star predicted that there will be more incidents like Uvalde. 

Kennedy said: ‘We have been weakening them and we have been making them ill-equipped to respond to that. And then I think Uvalde is a great example of not properly trained with broken systems that are not ready to do the right thing. 

He continued: ‘We will have more of that unless we get them the right training and we get our schools to become hard targets. And then we go upstream to the origin, the Genesis of these problems, which is mental health with the individual.’

He added: ‘Only then, can we go upstream to the origin, the Genesis of these problems, which is mental healthy with individual.’ 

Former sniper Tim Kennedy told Joe Rogan that he expects more incidents like Uvalde until officers get better training

Former sniper Tim Kennedy told Joe Rogan that he expects more incidents like Uvalde until officers get better training

Kennedy told Rogan that only after we invest more in police officers can we look at other issues that cause mass shootings

Kennedy told Rogan that only after we invest more in police officers can we look at other issues that cause mass shootings

Kennedy also said that due to the 'defund the police' movement 'nearly every large city has seen a crazy rise in crime'

Kennedy also said that due to the ‘defund the police’ movement ‘nearly every large city has seen a crazy rise in crime’

Kennedy said at one point of the conversation: ‘How does it make any sense that I’m going to provide this group that I want to protect us with less training and less funding, but than still want them to be a better product to be able to protect us?’ 

The city of Uvalde invests 40% of its yearly budget into its police force, the department has a SWAT team and there is a police department for the Uvalde School District. 

Uvalde, a city with a population of 16,000, spends $4 million on the police force. It will be the largest expense in the city’s budget for 2022, reports Bloomberg.

The network says that in 2020 the school district police force received more than $500,000 in local and state funding for ‘security and monitoring’ for schools.  

In 2004, Kennedy joined the military, completing various Special Forces training programs. He told Fox News in June 2022 that he was motivated to enlist following the attacks of September 11. Kennedy said that the attack ‘infuriated’ him. 

While in 2018, Kennedy told DailyMail.com that the FBI was investigating threats made against him by ISIS. 

In addition to his military career, Kennedy has participated in mixed martial arts since 1996 and continued to fight even while serving in the military. During his entire career, which ended in 2017, Kennedy fought 24 times professionally, winning 18 of them. 

He is also the owner of Ranger Up, a military-based clothing company, and of Sheepdog Rescue, a self-defense training company. 

Kennedy lives in Austin, Texas, with his wife and four children. On his Instagram page, he refers to himself as ‘unapologetically American.’ 

Kennedy pictured with one of his children on Father's Day 2022

Kennedy pictured with one of his children on Father’s Day 2022

During his entire MMA career, which ended in 2017, Kennedy fought 24 times professionally and won 18 of them

During his entire MMA career, which ended in 2017, Kennedy fought 24 times professionally and won 18 of them 

Kennedy began training in MMA in 1996

Kennedy began training in MMA in 1996

Kennedy was on Rogan’s show to promote his bestselling book, ‘Scars and Stripes.’ In one section of his book, Kennedy discusses his plan to build an elementary school in Texas.  

Earlier in the conversation, Kennedy accused ‘society’ of ‘demonizing military training for law enforcement.’   

Kennedy also said: ‘Then obviously we just experienced defund the police. And nearly every large city has seen a crazy rise in crime. And the ones that these large cities that defunded their police to include Austin, you know, we’ve never seen homicides like this.’

According to a January 2022 Time Magazine feature, 11 major cities had historically high homicide rates in 2021. 

The article goes on to say that between 2014 and 2021, there was an 80% rise in fatal gun deaths.  

Kennedy also accused society’s culture of ’emasculating’ law enforcement. 

He conceded: ‘You know, we want a kinder, softer, gentler — I get, they’re dealing with mental health and we can have specialists that can come in and deal with somebody having a mental health crisis, but we still need men and women that will run towards the sound of gunfire and know what to do.’

Kennedy said in conclusion of the subject: ‘If we don’t do those things, then it’s never gonna be fixed.’

The former green beret made similar remarks in an appearance on The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show earlier in June. 

Kennedy said that if he was one of the parents who showed up at the scene while Uvalde officers procrastinated: ‘If I my children were in there, I’d be kicking in door. If there was a police officer standing in my way, I’d be kicking his teeth in.’ 

He added that he felt ‘political correctness’ was to blame for officers staging outside the scene of the shooting rather than engaging.  

Kennedy went on: ‘We need to make our schools hard targets. We need give authority back to our police officers. We have been emasculating them figuratively for a decade now where there is so much fear about taking action.’ 

School hardening for security against active shooters has long been a controversial issue.

In 2019, school safety expert Kenneth Trump told the National Education Associations’ website: ‘A skewed focus on target hardening neglects the time and resources needed to spend on professional development training, planning, behavioral and mental health intervention supports for students, and other best practices.’

Jagdish Khubchandani, a public health professor at New Mexico State University, told The Texas Tribune in the wake of Uvalde: ‘This concept of hardening, the more it has been done, it’s not shown the results.’

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