Adam Kinzinger says more witness came forward after Cassidy Hutchinson’s bombshell hearing – and fellow panel member reveals ex-White House lawyer Pat Cipollone is ‘in discussions’ to testify against Trump
- Members of the January 6 committee have appeared across multiple Sunday news programs to suggest they have new ‘leads’ to follow after last week
- The panel heard bombshell public testimony from 25-year-old Cassidy Hutchinson, the former assistant to Trump’s last Chief of Staff Mark Meadows
- Hutchinson testified about the battle within the White House when Trump attempted to follow his supporters to the Capitol on January 6
- Rep. Adam Schiff said the committee’s next hearing ‘will be focused on efforts to assemble that mob on the [National] mall’
- Rep. Zoe Lofgren said the committee has been ‘engaging’ with Pat Cipollone and Schiff said lawmakers were ‘in discussions’ with his lawyer
- The committee subpoenaed Cipollone, Trump’s former White House counsel who defended him during the ex-president’s first impeachment, last week
January 6 committee member Rep. Adam Kinzinger said on Sunday that ‘new people’ have come forward in the wake of former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson’s bombshell testimony before the panel last week.
Further damning evidence could come from Donald Trump‘s ex-White House counsel Pat Cipollone, who Rep. Adam Schiff said Sunday is ‘in discussions’ with the panel on testifying against his old boss.
‘We’re in discussions with Mr. Cipollone’s counsel. I’m hopeful that we can work out bringing him in for testimony,’ Schiff told CBS News’ Face The Nation after his colleagues subpoenaed the attorney.
Schiff said Cipollone ‘clearly has information about – concerns about – criminal violations’ Trump made or almost committed on January 6.’
‘Hard to imagine someone more at the center of things, and I hope that he’ll demonstrate the same courage we saw Cassidy Hutchinson display,’ Schiff said.
Hutchinson’s bombshell testimony on Tuesday painted a picture of a lame duck leader who attempted to bully his security detail and aides, including Hutchinson and Cipollone, into letting him accompany his mob of supporters to the US Capitol.
The 25-year-old former aide to Trump’s final Chief of Staff Mark Meadows claimed Trump knew that some of his supporters were armed when he demanded to follow them to the Capitol and urged them to march toward it during his Stop The Steal speech.
Illinois Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger said ‘new people’ have come forward to the January 6 committee since Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony
Asked about Kinzinger’s comments about Hutchinson’s effect on Sunday, his fellow committee member Rep. Adam Schiff acknowledged the panel now has new ‘leads’ to follow
And despite Trump allies’ attempts to discredit her, Kinzinger told CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday that the panel has fielded a slew of inquiries from people looking to back up Hutchinson’s word.
The Illinois Republican said ‘yes’ when asked if more people have come forward in the wake of Hutchinson’s hearing but declined to go into further detail.
‘I don’t want to get into who or any of those details, but – and it’s not even just Cassidy, by the way, she’s been inspiring for a lot of people,’ Kinzinger said.
‘This happens every day. Every day, we get new people that come forward and say, “Hey, I didn’t think maybe this piece of the story that I knew was important, but now that you guys are talking – like, I do see this plays in here.”‘
Kinzinger also confirmed that there would be more surprise witnesses that ‘he did not expect to hear from’ with the Democrat-led committee’s probe went underway.
‘There will be – there is. There will be way more information,’ the retiring lawmaker said.
Asked about Kinzinger’s comments on Sunday, Schiff acknowledged the panel now has new ‘leads’ to follow after Hutchinson’s testimony.
The 25-year-old is the former assistant to Mark Meadows, Trump’s final Chief of Staff
‘I think there’s certainly more information that is coming forward. In terms of whether that will materialize into particular witnesses on this topic or that topic, we’re going to wait and see, but we are following additional leads,’ the California Democrat said.
‘I think those leads will lead to a new testimony. It’s part of the reason we wanted her to come before the public, is we were hoping it would generate others stepping forward, seeing her courage would inspire them to show the same kind of courage.’
He said the next hearing ‘will be focused on efforts to assemble that mob on the [National] mall.’
She testified last week that ex-White House counsel Pat Cipollone was central to efforts to keep Trump from following his supporters to the US Capitol
Images of a gallows erected by Trump’s supporters on the National Mall on January 6 are a chilling reminder of the violent intentions harbored by some of the mob that day.
Rep. Zoe Lofgren, another Democrat on the committee, backed up Schiff’s claim that the committee was in talks with Cipollone on Sunday.
‘We have been engaging with Mr. Cipollone. He did have an informal interview or discussion. That was all he was willing to do. But there have been ongoing discussions to see if he would come in and talk further,’ she said on NBC News’ Meet The Press.
‘After Ms. Hutchinson’s testimony that was so informative, it’s very clear that we would like him to come in.’
Lofgren said Cipollone’s concerns about violating executive privilege do not grant him ‘absolute immunity’ and pointed out that President Joe Biden has already waived that right in most cases of the committee’s investigation.
It falls when there is something more important, and that is true in this case,’ the California Democratic lawmaker said.
Tuesday’s surprise hearing was announced just 24 hours before it was set to take place, nearly a week after Committee Chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson told reporters that the remaining presentation of evidence would be delayed until July.
Schiff said the committee’s next hearing ‘will be focused on efforts to assemble that mob on the [National] mall.’ This image of a gallows erected by Trump’s supporters near the National Mall on January 6 are a chilling reminder of the violent intentions harbored by some of the mob
Cipollone was sent a subpoena for July 6 the day after Hutchinson’s testimony that suggested he ‘repeatedly raised legal and other concerns about President Trump’s activities on January 6th and in the days that preceded.’
He was among the officials who urged Hutchinson to keep Trump from the Capitol, she claimed.
‘Mr. Cipollone said something to the effect of, “please make sure that we don’t go up to the Capitol, Cassidy, keep in touch with me”,’ the former White House staffer said.
She said Cipollone delivered a stark warning: ‘We’re going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen.’
Hutchinson said Cipollone warned her boss as the riot unfolded, ‘Mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your effing hands.’
The attorney also allegedly threatened to resign if Trump instilled Jeffrey Clark, a loyalist ready to help him overturn the 2020 election results, as Attorney General.
Cipollone himself told Trump that installing Clark would be tantamount to a ‘murder-suicide pact,’ according to witness testimony.