Mike Pence reveals had a chat with ‘tired’ Trump a week after the Capitol riot who said: ‘It’s too terrible to end like this’
- Mike Pence angered Donald Trump by certifying election results on January 6
- MAGA supporters chanted ‘Hang Mike Pence’ on the steps of the Capitol
- On January 11, Pence met with Trump who was ‘tired’ and ‘sad’ he claims
The former vice president held a conversation less than a week after the January 6 riots when he certified the election results declaring Joe Biden the winner, much to Trump’s chagrin.
Enraged MAGA supporters were chanting ‘Hang Mike Pence’ and a gallows was built outside the Capitol over his refusal to fully back Trump’s claims of widespread election fraud and block the certification process.
In an excerpt from Pence’s upcoming book, he recalled the terrifying scenes as he was ushered to safety during the insurrection.
He then met with the president on January 11, nine days before Biden’s inauguration, and the president appeared wistful about what might have been, he claims.
Pence’s excerpt, seen by the Washington Post, says: ‘I met with the president on Jan. 11. He looked tired, and his voice seemed fainter than usual. ‘How are you?’ he began. ‘How are Karen and Charlotte?’
Mike Pence has opened up about the storming of the Capitol, revealing Donald Trump said it was a ‘terrible’ way to end his presidency
Trump and Pence have kept their distance since they were booted out of office in the wake of the January 6 riots
‘I replied tersely that we were fine and told him that they had been at the Capitol on January 6. He responded with a hint of regret, ‘I just learned that.’ He then asked, ‘Were you scared?’
”No,’ I replied, ‘I was angry. You and I had our differences that day, Mr. President, and seeing those people tearing up the Capitol infuriated me.’
‘He started to bring up the election, saying that people were angry, but his voice trailed off.
‘I told him he had to set that aside, and he responded quietly, ‘Yeah.”
‘I said, ‘Those people who broke into the Capitol might’ve been supporters, but they are not our movement.’ For five years, we had both spoken to crowds of the most patriotic, law-abiding, God-fearing people in the country.
‘With genuine sadness in his voice, the president mused: ‘What if we hadn’t had the rally? What if they hadn’t gone to the Capitol?’ Then he said, ‘It’s too terrible to end like this.”
Enraged MAGA supporters were chanting ‘Hang Mike Pence’ and a gallows was built outside the Capitol
Trump and Pence have kept their distance since they were booted out of office in the wake of the January 6 riots.
Trump publicly questioned Pence’s ‘courage’ over his refusal to block the election results.
This year, the two have backed opposing candidates in Republican governor races, suggesting a thaw in their relationship is not imminent.
Pence has not publicly declared he will run in 2024 but he is seen as a potential challenger, along with Ron DeSantis who stormed to victory in his Florida Governor race this week.
Trump has said that if he runs again he will choose a different running mate.
Last month, the former president suggested it would be traitorous behavior if Pence or other Trump Cabinet officials tried to run against him in 2024.
In an excerpt from Pence’s upcoming book, he recalled the terrifying scenes as he was ushered to safety during the insurrection
‘I think it’d be very disloyal,’ the ex-president said Friday in a radio interview with Fox’s Brian Kilmeade.
Kilmeade brought up the names of Pence, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and former U.N. Amb. Nikki Haley, who have long hinted they have future political ambitions.
‘Well, many of them have said they would never run if I run. So, we’ll see whether or not that turns out to be true,’ Trump said.
Earlier this week, Trump also railed against his potential rivals for the GOP nomination, branding the Florida governor Ron DeSanctimonious.
He displayed poll numbers on the big screens at a Pennsylvania rally showing Republican voters preferred him to the Florida governor.
‘There it is, Trump at 71, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10 percent,’ Trump said derisively.
‘Mike Pence at 7, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought. Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4 percent. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.’